Newborn found burried in Alto Quiel, authorities in search of the mother

[olga suarez]

http://www.tvn-2.com/nacionales/mantiene-busqueda-enterro-recien-Chiriqui_0_4605289469.html

The baby was apparently born full term, however, buried alive by the mother in a private finca in alto Quiel. The baby was found by a by passer's dog.

Authorities are in search of the mother, who's a suspected indigenous woman

[John and Kim Roberts]

Yes, that is the story we first heard as well, before knowing for sure who the mother was. That was what was going around in alto quiel among the other Ngobe Indians also. (The mother is a Ngobe Indian) we are pastor's in that community so we are doing what we can to help them heal emotionally. As far as monetary support at this point there is not anything I can think of but thank you so much for your concern. She is a young women with 2 other small children and is actually living back with her mom & dad right now. The case is still under investigation.

[Keith Woolford]

thanks John, for sharing and caring. It is good to hear that the young woman will recover.

[John and Kim Roberts]

There is a lot of Gossip going around about this. We personally know the family of the dog that found the baby we also personally know the mother. The true story is the woman's boyfriend abused her very badly causing her to give birth early. She was only about 6 or 7 months pregnant. Unfortunately the baby was born dead. Not wanting her parents to find out about the abuse she decided to bury the baby since it was dead. She did not think anybody would ever know. The dog found it and un-buried it and brought it to the house 5 days later.
Although still very sad about the baby and sad for the mother the story is not actually as brutal as all the gossip. The authorities do know who she is and they have taken her in for questioning. But they brought her back home obviously believing her story. She still has physical proof from the abuse.

[olga suarez]

News had said the baby was Ngabe and born full term. What you say is very sad.

Thank you for clearing it up

[Fred John Sobotincic]

Thank you John for your reply..I'm relived to hear of this,..though tragic in many ways,..it restores the mothers ethos.. Will the Boquete community be hosting any sort of support for this woman? If so I will want to donate a small amount...you can contact me @ [e-mail]

[Fred John Sobotincic]

I can't stop thinking of this tragedy.
The actions of the mother..there must be a better alternative to a unwanted birth ..

[Patricia Kehm]

Olga, why do you report everything you can to stir people up? Fred, think about it..where do you think you are? This is reality. It is very sad but who knows how this mother was going to feed this baby? What the poor go through there is horrible. I was there for 1/1/2 years and tried to help. I am not saying it is you Fred but most of the rich retirees could not care less. 

[Sheila]

Hopefully the mother was going to feed it by breastfeeding. I doubt worry over how she would feed it for the first few years was the motive. There must have been another motive, maybe some type of mental illness. 

[olga suarez]

She was an indigenous girl. The fact is, that many of them have children very young and do not know what to do with them, lots of them are a product of incest given their tradition where the father takes their virginity when they are ready for marriage/man. I do not know. There are also rumors these babies are meant to be strong and with no birth defects as they need their population to be future strong hands for work, so when a baby is born not strong enough, sick or with a birth defect is left... again, rumors I have not verified on this.

Fact is, many expats have fincas where they house indigenous families, and this could happen on their land. Many employ these girls in their houses and this is something to be looked at.  With so many non retirees becoming expats in Panama/Boquete, missions sending more and more people, issues like this should be addressed. Education is key.

I guess many of you did not read the news, this is what happened. The baby was born, wrapped in a nagua and buried alive in a shallow grave by a finca. A local walking her dog, found the dog with the torso and head of the baby and was obviously horrified. The authorities found the bottom half of the infant and they determined it was buried alive. They are looking at local indigenous girls known to have been pregnant to realize DNA tests to determine who the mother was.

I have tried to help them. They do not get rid off their young because they are poor. Poverty, sadly is all they know. There are other reasons.

Christmas of 2014 I adopted several families and with the help of many members of the community, a great deal of money was collected and shoes, clothes, food, toys, etc were donated to several. Nancy went with me and delivered food one day, Connie delivered toys and shoes, so did several other members of the community.

I was so shocked with the story of Indira. Young indigenous girl, not even mid 20's, with 7 or 8 children. She had not birth certificate or cedula, so not applicable for any subsidies or becas for the children. Her house is pretty easy to spot. If you take the road behind the library as if you are headed to the guy that sells blocks, you will see it on the hillside, past the junk yard of heavy machinery. It is a tin hut, no bigger than 8x10 with no running water or electric. I bought them mattresses, Connie bought her a play pen/bed for the baby, we gave them food, shoes, those kids were sweet and they were so thankful, but the problem goes beyond. I remember paying for her ultrasound because she had no idea how far along she was with her pregnancy... These are the issues all of us, as privileged as we are, should try and address.

 

No, I am not firing people off, all the opposite. I am trying to make us aware of the fact we relocated to an area than can use our help, and without passing judgment on anyone, sitting outside Sugar and Spice, we do not do much for a place who has welcomed us. Missions coming in should focus more in educating these poor people,

[Concerned]

Thank you Olga.
How very tragic. Education is indeed key. These things shouldn't happen.
If I have understood correctly, the body was found without limbs?
http://elsiglo.com/cronica-roja/atroz-perro-desentierra-bebe-brazos...