Education and awareness ARE the long term answers imo, Marie. In Boquete Amigos de Animales and ARF are led by expats but there are many other Panamanian led animal protection and sterilization organizations in David, Panama City, and other parts of the country. Awareness of the difference between animals and pets, as well as the benefits of sterilization, is increasing, just as it has in C.R., but it's a slow process.
Kristine Berg of Howling Success has held some very successful sessions with school kids here. Education is a lot of work but young minds are fertile ground and the rewards are long term.
Checking up on animal cruelty is something Panamanian volunteers should be doing, not foreigners, imo.
Joan James who works with Amigos de Animales has put together a amazing education program for children she has gone to 2 schools and will be going to 10 more ,before the end of the school year.
Keith Woolford > Carol Cardinale-SantanaJuly 4, 2015 at 1:41pm
Excellent. I hope we will hear more about the program.
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Thanks for share. We would like to draw your attention to an issue which is little discussed:
" are the shelters a real solution and preventive to prevent animal cruelty and stray animals?"
The shelters are doing an excellent job for the animals, however, a hostel is like trying to solve the problem of the over population of perrros and cats with a band-Aid, because it is not a plan with direct impact on medium or long term. Under no circumstances should be understood that trivializamos minimizamos or the work they do titánica in order to take care of their animals, which besides desgastante emotionally to the people who work in these shelters is an extremely high investment of economic resources.
Let us say I hold an animal in the hostel costs $ 1 per day. In other words, if the shelter is 100 animals, they are $ 100 a day (between food, water, some drugs, staff to clean up, etc.) These $ 100 a day, they amount to $ 36,000 per year. The animals are kept prisoners and many times, only the strongest and dominant are those who eat.
Based on this theory, many international organisations are of the opinion that dogs and cats will castran and are returned to the same place to be free and they know where to sleep and where to eat. Unfortunately the animals on the street have an average of life of + /- 3 years ago. But all her life will live free, and in many cases, better than some who have ' home ", But are not cared for appropriately or live in chains.
There is a chart there comparing the benefits of the same resources in both scenarios. As of June that organization has sterilized 93,000 animals in the Panama City area, 60,000 in the last 4 years.
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Judy Sacco > Keith WoolfordJuly 4, 2015 at 11:53am
This article from Spay Panama does not apply at all to Hanny's shelter. It is not to prevent overpopulation. The spay clinics are for that. As has been stated over and over, it is a place to get them healthy enough to sterilize and adopt and a place for them to recover from surgery. It will be a revolving door, not a dead end for the dogs that go there.
This discussion isn't about Hanny's shelter Judy, (as has been stated over and over), and that's why Spay Panama's post IS relevant.
"My post was not a response to that effort Judy, it's a general statement."
"Jim. My post was not a response to that effort, it's a general statement."
They bring up some very valid points about shelters and refugios. I personally do not believe that every stray or feral animal needs to be sheltered and adopted. If they came from the street, they can be returned there after sterilization, where they already know how to survive.
Keith,,the whole discussions about shelters started because of the facility the Hoogerkamps try to open, right? And it's not helpful for our little facility if you start a new discussion about professional shelters.,
We know this all, at least people who truly care : No Shelter, No Kill.
Ok , once more: After the sterilization dogs cannot right away put back on the street!!
WRONG, Marion. This topic was started because I was at a Clinic on Thursday where a box of kittens were irresponsibly dropped off a few hours earlier. Please READ, for crying out loud. You are the person who has attempted to change the discussion into a referendum on the Potrerillos project.
Information is the key.,before you judge get information !!
But - information was given over and over on this side - with no much effect.
Seems information is not wanted. Seems to show off is the issue.
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Education and awareness ARE the long term answers imo, Marie. In Boquete Amigos de Animales and ARF are led by expats but there are many other Panamanian led animal protection and sterilization organizations in David, Panama City, and other parts of the country. Awareness of the difference between animals and pets, as well as the benefits of sterilization, is increasing, just as it has in C.R., but it's a slow process.
Kristine Berg of Howling Success has held some very successful sessions with school kids here. Education is a lot of work but young minds are fertile ground and the rewards are long term.
Checking up on animal cruelty is something Panamanian volunteers should be doing, not foreigners, imo.
Joan James who works with Amigos de Animales has put together a amazing education program for children she has gone to 2 schools and will be going to 10 more ,before the end of the school year.
Excellent. I hope we will hear more about the program.
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Spay Panama's Animals USA-Panama
Yesterday at 12:04am · Edited ·
Thanks for share. We would like to draw your attention to an issue which is little discussed:
" are the shelters a real solution and preventive to prevent animal cruelty and stray animals?"
The shelters are doing an excellent job for the animals, however, a hostel is like trying to solve the problem of the over population of perrros and cats with a band-Aid, because it is not a plan with direct impact on medium or long term. Under no circumstances should be understood that trivializamos minimizamos or the work they do titánica in order to take care of their animals, which besides desgastante emotionally to the people who work in these shelters is an extremely high investment of economic resources.
Let us say I hold an animal in the hostel costs $ 1 per day. In other words, if the shelter is 100 animals, they are $ 100 a day (between food, water, some drugs, staff to clean up, etc.) These $ 100 a day, they amount to $ 36,000 per year. The animals are kept prisoners and many times, only the strongest and dominant are those who eat.
Based on this theory, many international organisations are of the opinion that dogs and cats will castran and are returned to the same place to be free and they know where to sleep and where to eat. Unfortunately the animals on the street have an average of life of + /- 3 years ago. But all her life will live free, and in many cases, better than some who have ' home ", But are not cared for appropriately or live in chains.
There is a chart there comparing the benefits of the same resources in both scenarios. As of June that organization has sterilized 93,000 animals in the Panama City area, 60,000 in the last 4 years.
This article from Spay Panama does not apply at all to Hanny's shelter. It is not to prevent overpopulation. The spay clinics are for that. As has been stated over and over, it is a place to get them healthy enough to sterilize and adopt and a place for them to recover from surgery. It will be a revolving door, not a dead end for the dogs that go there.
This discussion isn't about Hanny's shelter Judy, (as has been stated over and over), and that's why Spay Panama's post IS relevant.
"My post was not a response to that effort Judy, it's a general statement."
"Jim. My post was not a response to that effort, it's a general statement."
They bring up some very valid points about shelters and refugios. I personally do not believe that every stray or feral animal needs to be sheltered and adopted. If they came from the street, they can be returned there after sterilization, where they already know how to survive.
We know this all, at least people who truly care : No Shelter, No Kill.
Ok , once more: After the sterilization dogs cannot right away put back on the street!!
WRONG, Marion. This topic was started because I was at a Clinic on Thursday where a box of kittens were irresponsibly dropped off a few hours earlier. Please READ, for crying out loud. You are the person who has attempted to change the discussion into a referendum on the Potrerillos project.
But - information was given over and over on this side - with no much effect.
Seems information is not wanted. Seems to show off is the issue.