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McGrew convicted of murder

Started this discussion. Last reply by Samantha Aug 22, 2011. 76 Replies

I have known Ron McGrew personally and professionally for more than thirty years.  He is a great guy and a good citizen.  I was a city prosecutor, part-time judge, and defense attorney in our small…Continue

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Samantha replied to Bud Smith's discussion McGrew convicted of murder
"According to Don Winners Site ... yes he is the same Ron McGrew.. http://www.panama-guide.com/article.php/20110822143916319"
Aug 22, 2011
Mexico Resident replied to Bud Smith's discussion McGrew convicted of murder
"Is this the same guy??????     Officer Charged with Drunken Driving Member SubmissionAssociated PressAn off-duty Roseburg police officer was charged with drunken driving and assault after his pickup slammed into an Oregon State Police…"
Aug 21, 2011
William Jones replied to Bud Smith's discussion McGrew convicted of murder
"The US Embassy rarely gets involved.  It is not their job to judge someone guilty or innocent or provide council.  They do visit you occasionally in the prison and ask if you need anything from your friends or relatives. They can only give…"
Aug 21, 2011
Roger Bellido replied to Bud Smith's discussion McGrew convicted of murder
"Joseph:   Regarding the defense lawyer I agreed with you.  To me everything started wrong with the defense attorney.  As much as I heard he was a lawyer with no specialization in Penal or Criminal cases.  The case was solid…"
Aug 21, 2011
William Jones replied to Bud Smith's discussion McGrew convicted of murder
"Some people when they are accused of a crime and they feel they are innocent are in a state of denial.   This is not happening can be repeated over and over again in their heads.  Even when the gates of the jail are closed, they are in…"
Aug 21, 2011
MARK HURT replied to Bud Smith's discussion McGrew convicted of murder
"he was lucky in a way that he didn't have to sit in jail for two years waiting to be found guilty. That is the point.  maybe that was unlucky as well, because it seems he needed more time to allow things to die down a little, maybe try to…"
Aug 21, 2011
joseph replied to Bud Smith's discussion McGrew convicted of murder
"way to go Roger........ My 2 cents based upon what has been reported as being reasonably factual... Where is the miscarriage of justice? Bias? every prosecutor has a bias against the defense and vice versa, and inflamatory statements are…"
Aug 21, 2011
William Jones replied to Bud Smith's discussion McGrew convicted of murder
"Ron McGrew was not lucky. He was convicted of First degree murder. How do you find a good criminal lawyer when they want from $5000 to $10,000 up front. Simple to say, difficult to do."
Aug 21, 2011
William Jones replied to Bud Smith's discussion McGrew convicted of murder
"Win what case? He has been convicted. All he now needs is money to do a full appeal. What I understand is that he has no money. Do you think Gringo's are going to donate much to his defense fund. I will but I doubt if they could raise much…"
Aug 21, 2011
Roger Bellido replied to Bud Smith's discussion McGrew convicted of murder
"I think that it is not advisable for him to run.   I will not also recommend him to pay the money asked for a deal.  No way.  I will not support blackmail and bribes.  An amount of $92k will be more than enough to hire a good…"
Aug 21, 2011
Roger Bellido replied to Bud Smith's discussion McGrew convicted of murder
"I was not at the court room and I am not a lawyer but I will point out something that keep me thinking about this case with the limited information that was posted here.  I will not talk about the shooting or if it was right or not because…"
Aug 21, 2011
MARK HURT replied to Bud Smith's discussion McGrew convicted of murder
"where was he legally permitted to use it? a permit doesn't state your allowed to use it in this zone only, it can be used anyplace.   I read about  the man who was on a bus and two kids with guns jumped on it to rob everyone on…"
Aug 21, 2011
MARK HURT replied to Bud Smith's discussion McGrew convicted of murder
"Well he can run sure, but that's no life for him at all.  I think now would be the time to take the deal that was offered, 80k to the family, 10k to the courts and 2k for the man who will set it all up. then appeal the case and it…"
Aug 21, 2011
William Jones replied to Bud Smith's discussion McGrew convicted of murder
"This discussion should be about what is he going to do now.   All of the other stuff aside,  it is not how good a guy he is or is he a hero, or a criminal.  IT IS NOW AND THE FUTURE. Discuss that please. Everyone should discuss ALL…"
Aug 21, 2011
Kodiak replied to Bud Smith's discussion McGrew convicted of murder
"Thomas again we agree.  The Panama Penal Code clearly provides for both the defense of self and property regardless of whether or not "your" sense of American superiority wants to recognize it or not.  Later, J"
Aug 21, 2011
Thomas Edwin replied to Bud Smith's discussion McGrew convicted of murder
"A "sense of American superiority" is obvious in most of the comments on this case, especially those that blame the Panamanian justice system for Ron McGrew's unfortunate situation.  Americans need to try to look at the world from…"
Aug 21, 2011

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