Glyphosate - Herbicide - Forum

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norman collins January 28, 2015 at 8:56am

for those interested the helicopter is out every day spraying the sugar cane fields around Alanje in preparation for harvest, I believe they use glysophate & trinexapac-ethyl to help ripen & concentrate the sugar
- El Gato > norman collins January 28, 2015 at 6:05pm
  
  Don't they burn the cane fields before harvest?
  
  Roundup is a great product I wish I could buy it here I am stuck using Paraquat (Agent Orange) and generic roundup that requires more frequent applications.
  - The Zapadora > El Gato January 28, 2015 at 7:35pm
Jim Tosch January 25, 2015 at 4:49pm

At some point you have to say, I'm old, I am afraid of anything new.
- The Zapadora > Jim Tosch January 25, 2015 at 7:37pm
  - The Zapadora > The Zapadora January 25, 2015 at 9:04pm
    
    yeah like that hoax about cigarettes being bad for you.
Gordon Bakke January 25, 2015 at 4:24pm

Anecdotes, bad science, and just making stuff up. Case in point; Samsel, Seneff Study:

"One heavily used report was by Stephanie Seneff and Anthony Samsel claiming that glyphosate was supposedly causing all sorts of diseases from inflammatory bowel disease to Parkinson’s to depression. Another report by a group of French scientists led by Gilles-Eric Séralini claimed that glyphosate was toxic to human cells. Both reports have been heavily criticized and deconstructed. Seneff and Samsel have no expertise in toxicology or agriculture: Seneff is a computer scientist while Samsel is a retired science consultant. Their report had no supporting data; they basically “made up” their report. Séralini is notorious for authoring a retracted publication that inconclusively linked GMOs to cancer and his report on glyphosate was based on flawed experimental design – glyphosate is not directly exposed to human cells in the real world. Both studies appeared in pay-for-play journals and mainstream scientists have rejected them."

http://geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/04/30/is-glyphosate-used-wit...

There's plenty more criticism of these bogus reports by reputable scientists.
- Dennis Nutting > Gordon Bakke January 25, 2015 at 8:29pm
  
  Many people will accept anything if they see it on the internet; others will accept anything if it seems to have any type of scientific evidence or a doctor reporting it -- regardless of the credentials of the doctor or expertise of the scientists. That is why all the hoax emails spread so rapidly and these have now been replaced by useless warnings on facebook.
  
  Sadly most won't do any checking or digging on something especially if it supports something they perceive to be true.
Gordon Bakke January 24, 2015 at 5:51pm

I took a look at a couple of articles about this Danish pig farmer's claims. According to him, one birth defect out of 700 piglets born when feeding GM soy, but no statistics offered for the time period after he had switched to conventionally grown soy. Also no mention of ANY lab testing showing residual glyphosate in the tissues of these piglets (probably because there was neither any testing done, nor any glyphosate found in tissues). Also not mentioned is that after Mr. Peterson switched to non-Gm feed, he also began feeding fishmeal. So what you have here is more anecdotal evidence that is not backed up by science.

http://gmwatch.org/latest-listing/1-news-items/13882
- Linda Baker > Gordon Bakke January 24, 2015 at 8:11pm
  
  Apparently there is something to NOT feeding GM soy to farm animals. From the article you shared:
  
  Part 4: Mr Pedersen is not alone
  
  Since preparing this Dossier we have spoken with another Danish farmer, Sigurd Christensen, who farms at Burkal in southern Jylland. He farms with both dairy cattle and pigs. He told us that prior to his use of GM soy in the feed for the cattle herd, he experienced hardly any cattle deaths; but he said that when GM soya came into the diet around 2007 the death rate in his milking herd gradually rose to the point where last year ten cows (10% of milkers) died. The causes of these deaths were difficult to determine, but four months ago, he vaccinated his animals and then moved to the use of non-GM soy in the diet in at attempt to resolve the problem. Since then there have been no deaths, and medication costs for the cattle herd have dropped dramatically. In his pig herd of 500 sows, Mr Christensen reported that he had a history of major problems with sow health and piglet diarrhoea, and again decided to shift to the use of non-GMO soy in December 2011. It is still early days, but he has already noticed an improvement in the health of his pig herd, a reduction in reproductive problems, and a fall in medication use. Productivity has risen from 27 piglets per sow per year to 33.7 – well above the national average.

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